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Word War, Commissioner Richard v. Activist Milum

Originally Published Mar 21, 2008, 8:18pm
(Updated Mar 21, 2008, 10:06pm)

There are always two or more versions of the same disagreement but this one happens to be mine. I'm satisfied that Commissioner Richard's version will differ greatly and I welcome hearing it albeit the insults and libelous statements on his own website about me that seem totally unjustified.  http://www.davidrichard.info

Few involved in local politics have not heard recently about the "Word War" that has ensued between Forsyth County Commissioner David Richard and me. Politics is inherently a nasty game usually turning ugly very quickly.  If one side has something to hide, the other wishes to reveal it. The standard countermeasure for the hider is to throw up a thick smoke screen in an effort to lesson the clear view of what has happened or what is happening. We have all experienced this political trick. Some call it slight of hand. In Forsyth County it is seen as business as usual.

I could never blame anyone for wanting to see the record put straight when someone says or writes something about them that is patiently untrue. I know how untruths have hurt me and my cause to rid Forsyth County of corruption so there is no great mystery there for me, to be sure.

Oftentimes the appearance of truth comes about by way of circumstantial evidence. In other words; those citizens who have been directly or indirectly harmed by certain acts perpetrated by politicians are normally under the distinct impression that they are the best qualified to tell us who did the harming. Such is the current impasse between this political activist and a sitting county commissioner.

The harmed citizens, in two different and unassociated incidents, said that it did happen and Commissioner Richard says it didn't. This even though the commissioner apparently misquoted in one of those issues, saying he had absolutely nothing to do with it in one email, then in another he said something totally to the contrary. There is a specific word for that but I'm trying to be as nice about this as possible. If you wish to be privy to the facts I suggest reviewing the emails in question at the links provided in this article.

What got this Word War started was the fact that a local attorney managed to procure for himself a small tract of surplus county land that was originally donated by a generous landowner on Mullinax Road on Highway 9 South. The donation of the land was so that particular community could have its own fire station built on the property, as wished for by the donor.

Other land became available for a fire station so this land was sitting idle and was deemed surplus, as the county had no future use in mind for it. The parcel was rushed to a singular sale to one man while another Citizen wanted it for a vested interest acquisition. Commissioner Richard adamantly claimed that no vested interest existed for the other Citizen even though this prospective buyer's large billboard actually sat on the land in question.

I responded back by email after Commissioner Richard emailed me with an angry sounding diatribe on how I was so wrong in thinking, by way of an article I had preciously written, that the sign owner 'did have' a vested interest in procuring the land for his own company. My further argument was that the billboard owner 'did not' get an equal opportunity to bid on the tract, as he has requested months earlier.

I'll tell you now that the email conservation on this subject quickly went downhill as does an avalanche. It was made to appear as if Commissioner Richard could never be wrong and some voters are always wrong, in fact he has made such statements on his website and in some of his emails.

Not only was I thoroughly insulted by the words of Commissioner Richard, I was also made to feel as if I was some kind of idiot for even questioning Mr. Richard's judgment about it. For those of the curious nature you can read these emails starting from the newest at the top and working back in time by clicking HERE

Also posted on www.aboutforsyth.com is another email with the exact same tone, as I received, to another county Citizen who dared to ask Commissioner Richard questions or be so bold as to make suggestions to him. You can see that exchange HERE

You can also plainly see, that in my honest attempt to keep the peace with Commissioner Richard, I capitulated on numerous occasions to show my good faith effort in doing my level best to ward off the ire of an out of control county commissioner. David Richard uses his email privileges, as a county commissioner, like a poisoned dagger, not only to insult but to libel inquisitive citizens as well.

Three times I asked Commission Richard to stop threatening me by email and all three demands were ignored. I politely suggested that if he had legal problems with me voicing my political opinion that he should contact his attorney and have them write to me and make any demands he felt were necessary. I added that I would immediately respond. All attempts at normal channels of negotiation failed as the commissioner's threatening emails continued unabated.

As an opinionated, politically-interested ctizen and voter, I was appalled and I felt physically threatened. This is my second time dealing with someone who sends harassing emails like this. The other time I also had to take out a restraining order issued by a superior court judge.

Distressed that I had exhausted all avenues of diplomatic resolution that I could think of, I was ultimately forced to resort to swearing out a warrant for Commissioner David Richard's arrest. That happened hours later in the day after I had made my first of two police reports on the commissioner's "harassing communications" charges.

Commissioner Richard still insisted in sending to me more harassing emails, so again I called in the Forsyth County Sheriff's Department for yet another police report. As of today I have not received any word from the Forsyth County Magistrates Court of any action on my application for an arrest warrant applied for on March 12.

I will add history that several years ago I was arrested within six hours of a Good Behavior Warrant application when a county commissioner asked that I be jailed for no crime. That's right, no crime, but I spent seventeen hours in the county jail before being dragged into a Magistrate Court wearing in shackles simply because I was pulling county corruption records. All sorts of weird things were leveled against me but not one crime in the whole bunch.

This makes any local Citizen wonder about how the powers that be in Forsyth County select who they gang up on, and this is what we all should be worrying about. You will be hearing a lot about selective prosecution in the coming days I'm sure. In the meantime be really careful or you too could become a target. Some of us find that Commissioner David Richard's terrible name calling and online libeling is mighty stressful and has harmed us in this community.

David Milum


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David Richard
Mar 22, 2008 1:32pm [ 1 ]

Before anyone jumps on the pity wagon for Mr. Milum, remember these facts (something Mr. Milum is woefully short of).

Fact: Mr. Milum himself has admitted on www.aboutforsyth.com that he is, and I quote, "crazy as a loon".

Fact: No documents nor any discussions exist with commissioners regarding the sign owners claim that he expressed interest in the propertty in question. Either Mr. Milum is being lied to, or Mr. Milum is lying. Even if he did express some interest, he had no vested rights to the property, which was legally and properly sold to a neighboring land owner.

Fact: Mr. Milum sent numerous e-mails to me requesting clarification of my issues with him regarding my insistence that he remove libelous statements made against me on www.aboutforsyth.com. When he continued to get answers he didn't like, he claims harrassment. Mr. Milum needs to do two things: stop libeling me on public websites, and stop asking me to respond to his e-mails.

Fact: Mr. Milum is what we call an 0-fer. An 0-fer is someone who is 0-fer-everything he alleges. He's lost every court case every brought against him, lost every complaint he has ever brought against a public official, and may well be the only person to file a complaint against someone and come away with a judgment against him when the court case was done.

Over the next few weeks, I'll be detailing for everyone to see just how much of your tax money Mr. Milum has wasted in his pursuit of ghosts, goblins and fairy tales. I think you'll be astounded at the amount of time and taxes he has cost each and every citizen of this county. Many of you will likely want to ask him for a refund after this information comes to light.

Feel free to do so.

PB4463
Mar 22, 2008 9:42pm [ 2 ]

Commissioner, do you think that maybe NOT responding may be a better plan for you? Both on this site and on aboutforsyth.com, it seems like you always have to respond and rebut. It gives credibility to David Milum's points.

Why would an busy county commissioner spend so much time defending and responding if this were the nonsense that you claim?

David Richard
Mar 22, 2008 10:27pm [ 3 ]

Because it is MY reputation he is trying to destroy with his lies and his accusations. I will not allow that to happen.

And it is YOUR tax dollars he is wasting. His free ride is over in this county.

Cumming Resident
Mar 22, 2008 11:06pm [ 4 ]

Both of you sound like two spoiled 10-year-olds. What an image for an Easter Sunday from two self-proclaimed "Christian" men.

South Forsyth Resident
Mar 23, 2008 8:49am [ 5 ]

The emails sent to David Richard were in response to his threats to sue. The owner of the forum and David Milum removed the posts that he requested to be removed. He still came out swinging with his threats to sue David Milum and everyone who has ever written anything negative about him as well as the owner of the forum. Having a dislike for David Richard and some of the things he says and does isn't libel. He chose to run for commissioner and is running again. Elected officials get criticized. It's fine for David Richard to blast his fellow commissioners, the Cumming City Officials, private citizens, etc. with his own form of abuse. He calls people who disagrees with him, drooling imbeciles yahoos, idiots, etc. He sees no problem with that or no problem when he stands up at a Republican Party meeting and says, "The Board of Education is not worthy of your respect and deserves nothing but your contempt." It's fine for him to say in a public meeting to Jack Conway, "you are worse than an embarrassment." It's fine for him to call the Mayor of Cumming a black-mailer and an extortionist.

The Forsyth County News has criticized David Richard on several occasions in their editorials. In a recent editorial they said, "County Commissioner, David Richard, who never let's an opportunity pass to make a bad situation worse by pelting it with inflammatory rhetoric." Of course, he has a link on his web site for you to cancel the Forsyth County news because he doesn't like their opinions about him.

Commissioner Jim Harrell wrote an article on this web site critical of David Richard's comments on website about the other commissioners. It was entitled, "Shame on me?"

I wonder if he is sending threatening emails to the owner of this web site demanding that the article be removed or he will sue?

Well, we're lucky David Richard is only running for one out of five seats on the Forsyth County Board of Commissioners.

Those of you who are old enough or have studied about the "Cold War" with the former Soviet Union may remember how important it was to Americans not to elect a hot-headed president who could easily loose his temper and set off a nuclear holocaust. David Richard can't do too much damage in Forsyth County. But given another term, he will be even more hostile to those who disagree with him. Give his fellow commissioners a break and elect ABCD (Anybody but Crazy David).

David Richard
Mar 23, 2008 9:18am [ 6 ]

SFR, I have taken more criticism than you can dish out (and better) over the past 4 years, and when it is deserved that is fine by me.

What I will NOT allow is to be libeled. That will NEVER happen without a response by me to remove the offending public remarks.

I noticed in your compliant that you never once got off the track about my style of governing. Fine. If you want to focus on my style alone, that is your perogative.

Try this, though. What have I done in actual performance (excluding style) that you didn't agree with?

Did I help to manage growth? Yes.

Did I help to improve the roads and traffic situation? Yes.

Did I lead the charge to control spending? Yes.

Did I help to increase public safety? Yes.

Did I put Forsyth County first over special interests like the city? Yes.

Did I represent my district and put their needs in front when faced with competing needs? Yes.

In other words, did I do the job you hired me to do four years ago? The resounding answer is yes. And much of it wouldn't have been done without my style that you disagree with.

One final point: Did my style help to create an environment where a sitting commissioner was re-elected for the first time in years, while helping to boot out a sitting chairman and helping to get a new member on the school board? Yes.

Of course, if you liked the way this county was run over the past 15 years, you could always elect someone else, but you'd never get the things changed that still need to be done in this county. My performance should, and is, being judged on what I have done as well as how I have done it, and I can live with that judgment anyday.

South Forsyth Resident
Mar 23, 2008 10:07am [ 7 ]

Oh you are so arrogant! There are plenty of slow-growth, environmentalist out there who could do a much finer job with more ease and less confusion than you possible could. The boring job of county commissioner isn't a much coveted job. So yeah, that's why you're doing it.

Sure, take all the credit for the things people see as good, and claim other commissioners lied to you if you do something stupid. (typical David Richard).

You don't seem to mind how much time, trouble and expense you cost people in this county. Let's elect some people who can make decisions in a timely manner and stop harassing everyone who dare speak poorly of them. It's time for ABCD.

David Richard
Mar 23, 2008 10:34am [ 8 ]

My, my! Such vitriol for a Sunday morning.

Please read the post carefully above before sounding off. Notice the word "help" in many of my accomplishments. So your statement, "Sure, take all the credit for the things people see as good, and claim other commissioners lied to you if you do something stupid." is factually incorrect.

And please articulate the specifics on the "time, trouble and expense you cost people in this county." remark. That should be interesting. I suspect you don't have a clue about what you are talking about, but let's see.

And as one who knows, the job of county commissioner is never boring.

South Forsyth Resident
Mar 23, 2008 10:48am [ 9 ]

Well, I suppose to you being a county commissioners isn't boring. Remember the email..."let's have some fun stirring the pudding and menacing the City of Cumming." The commissioner you claim you got re-elected for a second term was the one you called a pig-head and an insensitive boob. You had nothing to do with either Charlie Laughinghouse or Jim Harrell getting elected. Your over-sized ego is so obnoxious.

Unless you are a person wanting to get a piece of property rezoned or a resident opposing a rezoning, you wouldn't care how much time and trouble it costs. So, why bother explaining it to you. You'd have your usual sarcastic answer.

No, I don't like your style of Governing. No, I DO NOT like your attitude toward those who elected you. NO, I DON'T like your egotistical ways. We deserve better, and we can definitely get better. Vote ABCD.

David Richard
Mar 23, 2008 11:22am [ 10 ]

Thank you for confirming that you don't have a clue about what you are talking about.

Fact: Rezonings in District 4 move through the process faster than any other District.

Fact: I do not extract conditions from developers in District 4 that other commissioners do in their districts.

Fact: District 4 rezonings since I came on the board have the fewest conditions associated with them; usually less than 15, and many less than 10.

Fact: I didn't have to attend a single meet & greet or town hall meeting during that last campaign, but I attended nearly all of them and lended my support to both candidates.

Fact: My website routinely carried out real-time answers to the charges made against both candidates - see Campaign Corner archives.

Fact: I made sure that my supporters were comfortable with both candidates; one they didn't trust and one they didn't know.

Fact: I guess you missed me at all the candidate waves and on election day holding and waving signs on street corners and at the polls.

You can't even admit that I have been tremendously effective at what I said I was going to do, because you can't get past my style. That is your problem, not mine.

The FACTS back me up every time.

South Forsyth Resident
Mar 23, 2008 11:53am [ 11 ]

Yeah, OK maybe you don't make waves in your own district, but you sure cause a lot of trouble in the other districts.

Why are you saying that people didn't trust Charlie Laughinghouse? But now, all thanks going to you, they now trust Charlie Laughinghouse? There were many, many more people out campaigning for Laughinghouse and Jim Harrell that have much more political influence than you do. You probably weren't even noticed.

David Richard
Mar 23, 2008 12:02pm [ 12 ]

Please provide any facts to back up your claim that I "sure cause a lot of trouble in the other districts".

I can't wait to hear this one.

South Forsyth Resident
Mar 23, 2008 12:17pm [ 13 ]

Well, let's see now. What about the time that you told Wieland Homes that you would rescind their variances to allow the houses which were already bulilt 6ft. apart instead of the required 10ft. apart after YOU got the other two on the so-called majority elected? Actually, saying you would make them tear down one of the homes, if I remember correctly. Then, you only required them to put in a sprinkler system and allowed the homes to stand only 6ft. apart. Actually, I agreed with you the first time. But you caved. Why? Oh, I remember you saying that "Wieland Homes gets it" What they got was a "big mouth" commissioner who loves throwing around threats and throwing his weight around. But, NOT really doing anything or complying with the UDC when it should have been. But, will deny a rezoning simply because "you don't like it personally."

Northside Mom
Mar 23, 2008 12:21pm [ 14 ]

David Milum admits he is crazy, so I can understand his participation in this.

What I can't figure out is why the commissioner thinks that his responses to Milum are doing well for his reputation.

Note to Commissioner Richard - you aren't doing yourself any favors here. You are coming across as a real jerk.

South Forsyth Resident
Mar 23, 2008 12:55pm [ 15 ]

There are only three things that I can remember David Milum ever disagreeing with David Richard on.

  1. A stop work order on the almost completed 14,000 sq. ft. house on CA's Trail.

  2. Gary Smith

  3. Selling donated surplus land to the person you deemed worthy without allowing it to be bid on by others who were interested in the property.

North Forsyth #2
Mar 23, 2008 1:44pm [ 16 ]

I hate t say it but Mr. Richard does not appear as a jerk. He is a jerk, an obnoxious, arrogant and rude jerk. He has been nothing but trouble since he came on the scene.

David Richard
Mar 23, 2008 1:47pm [ 17 ]

SFR, the wonderful thing about these forums is that people can spout off nonsense whenever they want, and not have to back up their claims - kinda like you.

I ask for any proof that I "sure cause a lot of trouble in the other districts", and you provide the one instance where I was praised by all parties for the most skillful compromise they've seen in a long time. Were the houses too close together? Yes. Did our inspectors catch that problem before it was too late to correct the problem by moving or knocking down the houses? No. Could we have forced Wieland to take a house down? Maybe, but it would have resulted in a lawsuit that would have cost the county thousands in litigation costs. My compromise allowed Wieland to upgrade the homes to fire standards that everyone could live with, which is why homes are separated by 10 feet or more anyway. Wieland spends about $60k, we spend nothing, and a solution is found for all. That is what good govenment is all about.

BTW, first you complain about a slash and burn mentality about me, then chastise me for not using slash and burn tactics on John Wieland Homes. Please make up your mind.

Thus far, you have failed to prove your complaints against my performance, and you have yet to refute my claims of my effectiveness in office.

Now that being said, please provide any other proof that I "sure cause a lot of trouble in the other districts" or that I have ever denied a rezoning for the sole reason that "I don't like it personally".

Otherwise maybe you should just admit that you are "grouching off" and have nothing to complain about except for my style.

Oh, yeah. And I admitted we made mistakes on the CA's Trail issue; I've been proven absolutely, 100% right on the Gary Smith issue; and I've been proven absolutely, 100% right on the surplus land deal.

Terry Baradine
Mar 23, 2008 1:55pm [ 18 ]

Its time for Mr. Richard to be voted out. Consider meeting and speaking with the 'other' candidates. Jon Flack is running for the dems and Patrick Bell is running Republican.

I am soooooo tired of the rhetoric of Mr. Richard. I too was a recipient of a nasty email in which he signed. Go figure. And I even agreed with him about the Gary Smith issue.. Go figure! Mr. Richard, how many people do you call idiots in your emails that you sign and send to your constituents?

Please don't tell me you are going to threaten to sue the owner of this website too. Let me use the words YOU USED TO ME IN THE EMAIL YOU SENT ME: 'get a life'

David Richard
Mar 23, 2008 2:00pm [ 19 ]

Ms. Baradine,

To answer your question, I only call people idiots when I consider them to be so. Fortunately, I've only met a handful in my experience as county commissioner. You find yourself in a select group of people. Congratulations.

Once again, if you don't want an answer, don't ask a question.

Terry Baradine
Mar 23, 2008 2:07pm [ 20 ]

Again I expected as much. Nice One... Oh and Happy Easter. I am not an idiot, now YOU allude to that on a public forum. Kind of like calling the kettle black isn't it. Sir are you a Christian? If so, step back a minute and think! Happy Easter Mr. Richard.. maybe you should go on an egg hunt with the kids.

South Forsyth Resident
Mar 23, 2008 2:27pm [ 21 ]

Sure Mr. Richard, you can always justify your antics. Who prasied you? Wieland Homes? After you made the threat? OR after you negoiated the deal with them? (still remaing six ft. apart). Couldn't you have said what you intended to do from the beginning without the threats?

I surely don't want to get back on the Gary Smith problem. But no, it has not been proven that you are 100% correct. You threatened Brant Meadows and Janis Thomas to have them removed from the elections board on your web site if they don't dance to your tune. A judge never reviewed the findings of the outside audit. So the matter remains unresolved.

Terry Baradine
Mar 23, 2008 2:31pm [ 22 ]

Mr. Richard never did answer the question I asked of him. I asked him if he was Darwin or Living the Nightmare on that forum. I am still waiting for an answer. Instead, he called me an idiot.

Threats are innappropriate for one in a leadership position. But anyone who believes that is an idiot I suppose. What a shame.

South Forsyth Resident
Mar 23, 2008 3:42pm [ 23 ]

Oh and one more thing Mr. Richard...when did the admission of "being wrong" about placing a stop work order on an almost completed 14,000 sq. ft. house take place? Before or after the judge sanctioned the county for using false pretenses of "erosion" or after a judge sanctioned the country for having the case moved to Federal court OR after the county reached a settlement with the owners out of court, which was not made public until the Forsyth County News did an open records request?

David Richard
Mar 23, 2008 4:04pm [ 24 ]

SFR,

That would be John Wieland Homes, their attorney, our attorney and fellow commissioners.

And it couldn't have been done without the threat, because the PREVIOUS commission, by a 3-2 vote, granted the variance that I disagreed with. Without the threat of the rescission of that variance, John Wieland Homes wouldn't have come to the table to negotiate. Since the District 2 commisioner was one of the 3 who voted in the variance that would have allowed the distances to stand without ANY changes, I felt the need to step in. And my solution worked. No justification - just facts.

As to Gary Smith, I would suggest you read the Gary Smith Files on my website. It details everything you ever wanted to know about both "audits" and explains every instance of contention regarding the accusations against him. It's a little long, but try to pay attention to the detail. A judge doesn't have to review the findings, as nothing has been alleged that hasn't been explained. Again, no justification - just facts.

And if Mr. Meadows and Ms. Thomas want to cite rules (that in many people's mind at the state do not actually exist in GA law) they might want to be careful that they are actually following the very rules they wish to live under. They could have been removed from their positions on the Board of Elections weeks ago for failure to comply with state law, but we have allowed them to continue in hopes that they will voluntarily cease their attempts to take over the Registrar's office.

And it doesn't matter when an admission of a mistake is made; the admission is sufficient.

David Milum
Mar 23, 2008 4:11pm [ 25 ]

Quote by Commissioner David Richard; "The FACTS back me up every time."

DM: David Richard has asked for proof that he lies. Here goes Commissioner:

From: Dave Richard To: David Milum Fri 3/7/2008 7:40 PM Excerp: You clearly have not bothered to find fact regarding this matter, since you cannot possibly have found anyone associated with this matter [*Hansard Stop Work Case] that has any evidence that Ms. Davis or I (or anyone on the county commission for that matter) have ever discussed this case.

Then this next one 18 hours later when he realized that I 'had' spoken to him about this two years ago and he admitted to going to see the Hansard Property in question:

Dave Richard Sat 3/8/2008 1:29 PM Excerp: However, to clear up the usual misconceptions you have about reality, I went and inspected the Hansard property line as it conflicted with our understanding of county prescriptive right-of-way and ONLY as it conflicted with our understanding of county right-or-way. I also met with the Hansards and their surveyor at that time.

DM: Now to be fair, here are both emails in their entirety so he can't say I took anything out of context:

From: Dave Richard To: David Milum Fri 3/7/2008 7:40 PM

Mr. Milum, Apparently you like losing judgments against you. Your post below is categorically false in regards to Angela (not Anglia, you wretched cretin) Davis’ involvement in the Hansard matter. You, more than anyone, should know that I cannot be coerced or enlisted by anyone. You have been told by multiple people involved with this matter that Ms. Davis was never, ever spoken to nor corresponded with regarding this matter. You clearly have not bothered to find fact regarding this matter, since you cannot possibly have found anyone associated with this matter that has any evidence that Ms. Davis or I (or anyone on the county commission for that matter) have ever discussed this case.

As such, I demand (not request) that you edit the portion of this post that concerns me and remove any reference to my being coerced or enlisted to do anything by Angela Davis. See the beginning of the post below with date, time and offending paragraph in bold. I suggest you remember the last time you refused to remove a libelous post and the subsequent consequences. - - David W. Richard, Commissioner – District 4

From: Dave Richard To: David Milum Sat 3/8/2008 1:29 PM

Mr. Milum, You will honor my demand whether I answer your questions or not.

However, to clear up the usual misconceptions you have about reality, I went and inspected the Hansard property line as it conflicted with our understanding of county prescriptive right-of-way and ONLY as it conflicted with our understanding of county right-or-way. I also met with the Hansards and their surveyor at that time.

South Forsyth Resident
Mar 23, 2008 4:48pm [ 26 ]

Well for one thing Mr. Richard, I will not read your "Gary Smith file" since it will contain your one-sided views of your BBF Gary Smith. The county commissioners have no authority over Gary Smith, so therefore why don't you just keep your big snout out of the discussion for once in your life. You have no authority to remove anyone on the Board of Elections. Get over yourself Mr. Richard. Control your caveman mentality and impluses.

Terry Baradine
Mar 23, 2008 5:34pm [ 27 ]

I would like to know what problem Mr. Richard has with anyone asking a question of him. Furthermore, perhaps more people need to do open records requests on Mr. Richard, and pay close attention to the emails he sends through the county server, which would or could be part of an open records request. Gosh Mr. Richard we would not want the general public to know that would we.

So, I ask you once again Mr. Richard and I am doing so respectfully because I feel I have a right to know. And please do not send me another email to my home email address because I expressly requested that you STOP sending me emails to my home email, but you proceeded to anyway. How about if you answer the question right here, if you don't mind. Were you or are you at any time on the Forum listed as 'Darwin' or 'Living the Nightmare'. A simple yes or no would be nice without the name calling. Now, I expect that you can answer the question without getting high and mighty, threaten, or name call or resort to the usual vitriole. I can't wait to see the response.

David Milum
Mar 23, 2008 5:58pm [ 28 ]

Quote David Richard; "Oh, yeah. And I admitted we made mistakes on the CA's Trail issue; I've been proven absolutely, 100% right on the Gary Smith issue; and I've been proven absolutely, 100% right on the surplus land deal."

DM: Commissioner Richard why don't you tell these readers how much your innocent Hansard family mistake cost the Taxpayers. That was over $239,000.00 in one big pop, isn't that right Mr. 100% Correct All The Time?

You also haven’t told these readers that the innocent Hansard family incurred well over $300,000.00 in damages because of their major problems with one particular jerk on the county commission have you Sir? Oh yes, we certainly don’t want any over-taxed Voters to know that a county attorney who bills the Forsyth County Citizens $1.5 million per year just happens to own the property next door to the Hansards do we Commissioner? God forbid anyone knowing that little gem.

And while you’re at, why don’t you tell us Mr. 100% who it was that proved that you are 100% correct on the Gary Smith and the surplus land issues. I like to meet that person who has such confidence in a hotheaded, Citizen abuser like you Sir.

David Richard
Mar 23, 2008 8:08pm [ 29 ]

We'll take these one at a time, since so many have requested so much.

SFR, I'm disappointed in you. You won't read my site because you think it will contain one-sided views. Heaven forbid you actually take the time to learn something. There is plenty of information there that the people who tried to bring down Gary Smith neglected to find out. So I guess you can join the ranks of the uninformed and sit next to Milum, Sweeney, Ledbetter, etc.

Now to the Board of Elections. We appointed them, and we can un-appoint them. But we won't have to, because if the members in question continue to violate state law, that will be taken care of outside of our offices.

You've taken about enough swings at me and missed every time. You, like others, fail to provide proof of your accusations, and ignore facts when presented to you.

cumming resident
Mar 23, 2008 8:15pm [ 30 ]

The more you open your mouth, Dave Richard, the closer you come to being voted out of office. The Republicans have put up Bell because they know your immaturity is a liability that could hand the District 4 seat to the Democrats. If you wish to stay in office, you may want to tame your fiery tongue.

David Richard
Mar 23, 2008 8:17pm [ 31 ]

Ms. Baradine,

I have no problems answering questions, and have done so repeatedly, especially to you. I will not repeat myself any further with you. You do not accept reality, even when it bites you in the face.

I also have no problem with people who want to look at my records, so long as they have a reason to do so. The ORA is being abused in this county by certain people, Mr. Milum in particular. Asking for every e-mail by a particular commissioner will take thousands of dollars of effort, and dozens of man-hours to retrieve, all because certain people hate to be told they are an idiot, and hate to be proven wrong. And unfortunately, we won't be able to recoup the true cost of these requests due to restrictions in the law. Therefore, the taxpayers will have to foot the bill for these abuses.

The true cost of that abuse will be detailed in the next few weeks.

David Richard
Mar 23, 2008 8:30pm [ 32 ]

Mr. Milum,

English 101.

We'll go through this slowly, so that even you can understand. I'll put your two statements you have used to show that I have lied to you below:

DM: David Richard has asked for proof that he lies. Here goes Commissioner:

From: Dave Richard To: David Milum Fri 3/7/2008 7:40 PM Excerp: You clearly have not bothered to find fact regarding this matter, since you cannot possibly have found anyone associated with this matter [*Hansard Stop Work Case] that has any evidence that Ms. Davis or I (or anyone on the county commission for that matter) have ever discussed this case.

Then this next one 18 hours later when he realized that I 'had' spoken to him about this two years ago and he admitted to going to see the Hansard Property in question:

Dave Richard Sat 3/8/2008 1:29 PM Excerp: However, to clear up the usual misconceptions you have about reality, I went and inspected the Hansard property line as it conflicted with our understanding of county prescriptive right-of-way and ONLY as it conflicted with our understanding of county right-or-way. I also met with the Hansards and their surveyor at that time.

OK, Mr. Milum, now pay close attention to the english language. When I say: "You clearly have not bothered to find fact regarding this matter, since you cannot possibly have found anyone associated with this matter [*Hansard Stop Work Case] that has any evidence that Ms. Davis or I (or anyone on the county commission for that matter) have ever discussed this case.", it doesn't mean that I hadn't spoken to ANYONE regarding this case, it was that I, or anyone on the county commission, hadn't spoken with Angie Davis about this case. Do you see the clarity of this statement now, Mr. Milum?

That means that when you say the next line to try to prove that I had lied to you, "Then this next one 18 hours later when he realized that I 'had' spoken to him about this two years ago and he admitted to going to see the Hansard Property in question: . . . I also met with the Hansards and their surveyor at that time.", that means that I HAD spoken to you and others about this, but still hadn't spoken to Angie Davis about this.

Therefore, no lie occurred.

The only thing that happened here is that you failed to understand plain and simple english in your zeal to accuse someone who beat you like a rented mule on the Gary Smith issue.

And while we know that facts are not your strong suit, they proved the Gary Smith issue and the land use issue. Once again you've missed; as you always have, and as you always will.

David Richard
Mar 23, 2008 8:37pm [ 33 ]

Cumming Resident,

You know nothing about local politics whatsoever.

The republicans haven't "put up Bell". Mr. Bell has done this entirely on his own (although I suspect the good CM may have had a bit to do with this as well). And republicans are not in the least bit worried that a democrat will win a county-wide election any time soon. Even the past presidential primary showed that democrats still make up only 25%-30% of the electorate in Forsyth County.

Don't you worry about my re-election chances; that's my job, not yours.

David Milum
Mar 23, 2008 8:38pm [ 34 ]

OK Commissioner Richard, you still refused to answer Terry Beradine's questions because you say you have been over that before with her, so let me ask you David Richard because you can't use the excuse that you have gone over that with me.

Were you at any time on the aboutforsyth.com Forum using the alias 'Darwin' or 'Living the Nightmare'? A simple yes or no would be nice without the name calling. Now, I expect that you can answer the question without getting high and mighty, threaten, name calling, or resorting to your usual vitriol. I can't wait to see the response.

There is that question again Commissioner Richard and we will keep asking it until you answer it.

David Richard
Mar 23, 2008 8:47pm [ 35 ]

Sorry, Mr. Milum.

I don't want to have another arrest report filed with the Sheriff's office, so I'll just stop replying to your questions as well, for fear of further harrassment charges. ;)

South Forsyth Resident
Mar 23, 2008 8:50pm [ 36 ]

NO Mr. Richard, I don't read your website very much anymore. Frankly, I just can't stomach it. I did however read your post about Patrick Bell on a link from another website. On the very first day he annouces that he is running for commissioner, you call him a liar. I'm sick of your kind of talk.

I look forward to meeting Patrick Bell.

No, you did not appoint the Board of Elections. Brant Meadows was appointed by the Republican party and Janis Thomas was appointed by the Democratic Party. If you insist on sticking to your lie, please provide the proof that you appointed them on the website.

David Richard
Mar 23, 2008 9:01pm [ 37 ]

SFR,

All appointments to boards are made by the governing authority; that would be the Board of Commissioners. The respective political parties send in their recommendations, but they do not become effective until the BOC officially appoints them. So you are, once again, wrong on the issues, and have still not backed up your many accusations against me with facts.

No lies from me; just facts. The appointments are available for you to view in previous county commission meeting minutes.

As to Mr. Bell, I would refer you this very site, and the many comments he posted regarding the anti- SPLOST campaign waged on a similar forum such as this.

He lied, he was told he lied, he was shown the proof that refuted his lies, and he continued to perpetuate the lies. Oh, and he was on the wrong side of a 70%-30% vote on both issues. If that is the kind of leadership you want, feel free to vote for him. I'll get more votes from the people that actually do pay attention and really know the facts of my actions than he'll get with his stances.

David Milum
Mar 23, 2008 9:02pm [ 38 ]

Commissioner Richard why are you so distressed about the Citizens of Forsyth County seeing all of your emails? They are public property you know. Why not help me get those to help us trust you more. What would that hurt if there is nothing to see?

You are full of threats aren’t you Commissioner when you get cornered? How do I know that you are cornered? Because you will not answer Terry’s question about you being “Darwin” and “Living the Nightmare”. As you can see this has now got a lot of people's attention. Your threats are not gaining you any ground. I’ve had death threats on down for over twenty-five years from the corrupted scoundrels in Forsyth County and let me assure you Dave you will not be successful using them against me or any of Forsyth County’s Citizens, many of whom are fast discovering what you are.

Now let’s ask District 4 Commissioner Dave Richard again; are you “Darwin” and “Living the Nightmare”? Come on now Dave the smoke is quickly clearing and you are all alone in the bright Sunlight. Feel the heat yet Dave?

Kim Pruitt
Mar 23, 2008 9:27pm [ 39 ]

Mr. Richards,

Since you will not answer David Millum about Darwin or Living the Nightmare please answer me. In the last posting Darwin addressed me personally and why? So are you Darwin and Livining the Nightmare? You have no reason not to answer me.

David Richard
Mar 23, 2008 9:39pm [ 40 ]

No.

South Forsyth Resident
Mar 23, 2008 9:42pm [ 41 ]

Mr Richard, just because Patrick Bell was opposed to SPLOST doesn't in anyway whatsoever make him a liar. He had his reasons.

You Openly opposed SPLOST V. You also openly opposed SPLOST for schools in 2006. You also switched parties just to get elected.

South Forsyth Resident
Mar 23, 2008 9:44pm [ 42 ]

No What Mr. Richard? Which question are you answering no to?

South Forsyth Resident
Mar 23, 2008 9:50pm [ 43 ]

By the Way Mr. Richard, this county didn't vote 70/30 in favor of SPLOST because you claim you prefected it. This county always votes for SPLOST.

David Richard
Mar 23, 2008 9:56pm [ 44 ]

SFR,

Anyone is free to oppose SPLOST, but Mr. Bell went beyond opposing, and entered into the falsehood category. When his "reasons" were refuted with facts, he continued to support the lies.

When I opposed SPLOST for schools, I had facts to back up my opposition, and stated them publicly. No one had a single counter to my complaints.

When I opposed SPLOST 5, it was due to the lack of accountability and to the lack of road funding as opposed to other items that I felt didn't need to be addressed so urgently. No one had a single counter to my complaints, and the BOC later published a list of completed projects that wasn't available until after I spoke out about it. You'll note this BOC didn't need to be prodded to produce a list of completed SPLOST 5 projects.

So stop complaining to me and vote for anyone else. You were going to anyway, so let's end this charade right here, shall we? Nothing I can say will convince you that I am right, even though all the facts are out there for you to read and see. Ignore them, and simply for the other guy.

We'll all save time.

David Richard
Mar 23, 2008 10:00pm [ 45 ]

SFR,

Never said anything about what I did or didn't do to get SPLOST 6 passed. I did suggest that Mr. Bell will need to convince 70% of the electorate that they were wrong and he was right on his stance, and he will have to explain his willinness to lie about the BOC and their actions. Because I will make sure he will have to at every campaign event he and I attend, so he'd better have a real good answer.

Good luck on that one.

Terry Baradine
Mar 23, 2008 10:06pm [ 46 ]

Mr. Richard once again demonstrates childishness and arrogance-- and that's my opinion Mr. Richard and I am sticking to it. For crying out loud we need leadership that doesn't cry FOUL every 2 seconds.

Terry Baradine
Mar 23, 2008 10:19pm [ 47 ]

And I have read your 'wonderful' website Mr. Richard and my opinion is that it is useless information. Anyone who reads it should take it with a grain of salt in my opinion. Very comical that you give your website a plug any chance you get. Its all a bunch of bloviating. And I pay money for this kind representation!

Terry Baradine
Mar 23, 2008 10:39pm [ 48 ]

Sir, with all due respect, NOBODY needs approval from you, Mr. Richard or 'have a reason' or give you a reason so you can approve or disapprove to pull records. Smart people do it all the time. The press does it too.

David Richard
Mar 23, 2008 11:21pm [ 49 ]

Ms. Baradine,

Please show anywhere where I said that anyone needed my "approval" to pull records. You continue to earn your designation by me each and every time you post.

Point to note: Mr. Milum no longer likes me because I beat him like a rented mule every time he challenges me. Mr Milum knows I used to work for the Xerox Corporation. Mr. Milum posts on his website that he has made an open records request for any information regarding Xerox, me, Gary Smith and Rhonda O'Connor.

Why does he do that?

He has no idea that the Xerox contract with the county ended 2 months BEFORE I took office, because if he did, he'd have no reason to request the documents.

He does it for one reason and one reason alone; because it makes me look suspicious in the eyes of those who read the website. Even though there is no chance that there are any documents that can be satisfied with an ORAR.

It doesn't bother me too much that Mr. Milum is abusing the ORA to try to take me down, because he is basically impotent. It bothers me that he is wasting tax dollars by making a request that has no meaning whatsoever, and you and I get to pay that bill because he doesn't have to.

The press asks for specific documents that they need. Mr. Milum asks for the world, and you and I pay for it. And he is still 0-fer-everything he has ever alleged about county government.

Terry Baradine
Mar 24, 2008 9:36am [ 50 ]

So there you have it. A sitting County Commissioner pleads his case on a public blog, insults people left and right on cumminghome.com, does the usual political hat trick (calling an excellent candidate from his own party a liar), I am sure this is not the first time he has done this ( go look after all the other opinion letters on cumminghome) and likely not the last.

Mr. Richard, "We are not worthy." "We are not worthy." "We are not worthy."

And then Mr. Richard claims David Milum libels him. First of all Mr. Richard, Milum is not an elected official. You, sir, are an elected official. You are libeling Mr.Milum on your very own website. The standards for libeling a private individual are not the same as for an elected official. Let me break it down for you. You, as an elected official, could be summarily sued for your own posts concerning private individuals.

Mr. Milum, If you need assistance with an attorney you will likely want to get one that knows about SLAPP. Strategic Lawsut Against Public Participation and since Georgia has very specific ANTI- SLAPP statutes, you will likely need an attorney that knows these statutes. Keep all your records too.

And most of all Mr. Milum, stay safe. I too received strange emails from this fella, after I specifically told him to stop. Kind of made me feel a little squeamish inside. I read where some one received an email that said 'deadly serious' in it. I would take any precaution as necessary should anyone receive an email with those words.

David Milum
Mar 24, 2008 10:19am [ 51 ]

Quote from Commissioner David Richard; “I also have no problem with people who want to look at my records, so long as they have a reason to do so. The ORA is being abused in this county by certain people, Mr. Milum in particular. Asking for every e-mail by a particular commissioner will take thousands of dollars of effort, and dozens of man-hours to retrieve, all because certain people hate to be told they are an idiot, and hate to be proven wrong.”

These “idiots/Forsyth County Citizens” want to see if there are other Forsyth County Citizens that you have harmed in some way Mr. Richard. You admittedly helped to cause the innocent Hansard family over $300,000.00 in damage and you helped to cause the Taxpayers of this county damages totaling over $239,000.00 for nothing, absolutely nothing. If you will do this to this innocent Cumming family and deprive business owner Buddy Lang on bidding for Taxpayer owned surplus land you’ll most likely do it to other innocent Citizens. We want to see if you have. We’re also going to see if you are using your commissioner’s office title to perpetrate any sort of verbal attacks on innocent Citizens. If you aren’t or haven’t then we’ll soon know that.

And then there is that possibility that you Sir are using our computers for your own personal purposes. Isn’t that the reason County Administrator Stevie Mills is not longer with the county Mr. Richard?

I noticed that you called Election Board Member Brant Meadows a criminal by saying that he violated State Law. I was informed this morning that your statement has been duly saved to file Mr. Richard. Just thought that I would mention that.

If you will talk to county attorney Ken Jarrard this morning you will also see that an “idiot/ Taxpayer” has sent yet another pesky ole Records Request for all of your computer login information to find out exactly when you log into the county servers. With that information we can determine if you are using our county computer equipment to do anything contrary to what is necessary for a county commissioner.

Since these Ga. Records Requests will serve to clear up any misconceptions that we might have about you Mr. Richard how can you possibly balk at this Georgia Law? Where is your welcome to seek the truth?

Forsyth County Citizen’s Oversight Committee 4300 Jot Em Down Road Cumming, Ga. 30040

March 24, 2008

Jarrard & Davis 105 Pilgrim Village Drive, Suite 200 Cumming, Ga. 30040 C/O Ken Jarrard

Ref; Open Records Inspection Request to: Forsyth County Commissioner David Richard

Under O.C.G.A. 45.6.6

  1. Please provide for immediate inspection, [all] dated and otherwise login information onto the county computer system and servers for Commissioner David Richard from January 1, 2005 to March 24, 2008. If you can provide a CD[s] with all his dated and otherwise logins for my inspection that will be satisfactory.

I do not agree to any redactions as this is a Taxpayer paid for public record. I know that is taxing on our county employees but in lieu I could furnish my own certified forensic investigator to do this work Ken. They have advised that this could take up to one week in the County IT Department to thoroughly research this matter.

Please advise when these records can be available to view by the Georgia Law. If you have any questions feel free to correspond by email. As always Ken thank you very much for your cooperation in these legal matters of Georgia Law.

David Milum Forsyth County Citizen’s Oversight Committee

terry sweeney
Mar 24, 2008 10:39am [ 52 ]

Dave Richars is a pathetic little man who points his little skinny finger in Commissioner Ledbetters face while yelling at her.

I would bet he has never done this to a man.

He claims to do it all,including the FLIP PROGRAM which cost the county $ 500,000.00.

It goes like this: The flip program gives county employees money for doing a better job now instead of before. thus giving more money to the employee for not doing their job in the past. How stupid is that.

Hay Dave, giving away Citizens money again big guy?.

David Richard
Mar 24, 2008 1:19pm [ 53 ]

Mr. Milum,

Please remove any reference to my calling Mr. Meadows a "criminal" in any post that I have made. You should know (what am I saying - you don't know anything) that a violation of state law does not mean you are guilty of a criminal offense; it simply says that you are not foillowing state law.

Feel free to look at any record that exists, Mr. Milum. You'll continue to waste taxpayer dollars and continue to find absolutely nothing. And starting next week, I'll be documenting and publishing each and every hour wasted and dollar charged to Forsyth County taxpayers that you have cause with your witch-hunts.

And you'll still be an 0-fer-everything.

South Forsyth Resident
Mar 24, 2008 1:53pm [ 54 ]

Mr. Richard, if you can say that Brant Meadows has broken Georgia Law and therefore YOU will have him removed from the Board of Elections, then how can you say that Gary Smith hasn't broken any laws. He is a full-time employee, (of whomever) He claims to be the best educated on the subject of elections. He travels to other states at our expense. Then how can you claim that he didn't knowingly and willingly break GA law?

I hope the readers of this website have figured out how you spin everything. I'm glad David Milium has requested an open records of your emails. That should be very interesting. I'll be watching your website Mr. Milum. It's taxpayers' money well spent.

Terry Baradine
Mar 24, 2008 2:11pm [ 55 ]

You are wrong Mr. Richard. Anytime you say someone is violating state law without providing proof could be or might be considered libel, especially if the person is NOT an elected official. And all of that largely depends on the courts, depends on how well it is documented, depends how many are willing to tell the truth in court, AND, if it is a matter of public interest and an opinion.. there is no case!

Stop crying wolf Mr. Richard, as you can see, nobody is going to vote for you if you don't know when to shut the pie hole.

Terry Baradine
Mar 24, 2008 2:16pm [ 56 ]

Mr. Richard Are you using County Servers or computers to post here? Just a question and I am asking. Should I be in fear for asking questions of my elected official?

SFR
Mar 24, 2008 2:57pm [ 57 ]

It is complete an utter nonsense to say that Brant Meadows broke GA law and claim that Gary Smith, the Chairman of the Board of Elections, The Voter Registrar and the elections supervisor didn't in anyway whatsoever knowingly and willingly break GA law. So, either take back your accusation against Brant Meadows or say that Gary Smith broke the law and should be removed from his position. You can't have it both ways.

debra
Mar 24, 2008 4:47pm [ 58 ]

Anyone interested in learning more about Patrick Bell, the Republican candidate for District 4, can visit his new website at www.teambell.org.

If you're embarrassed by David Richard's conduct, please volunteer by clicking on Join the BellBrigade!

Lynn
Mar 24, 2008 5:18pm [ 59 ]

Thanks Debra,

I'll be happy to join the Bellbrigade. It will be an honor.

debra
Mar 24, 2008 5:26pm [ 60 ]

Thanks, Lyn. Patrick will be a breath of fresh air for Forsyth County.

How about all you Mr. Swiss "Yahoos?" Care to join us at www.teambell.org?

Mar 24, 2008 5:33pm [ 61 ]

Patrick Bell here watching with disappointment yet again…

I promise you will never get this from me. You may get disagreements over issues but you will never get the rudeness, threats and disparaging name-calling. I can listen to opposition; try to understand the other party’s point of view and then work towards developing a solution/answer.

I assure you I will bring PROFESSIONALISM and TEAMWORK to District 4.

Visit my campaign website, TeamBell, at www.teambell.org and join me in making a difference in Forsyth County!

Lynn
Mar 24, 2008 6:18pm [ 62 ]

Thanks Patrick,

I'm very happy you are running for commissioner. You will hearing from me again in the near future. I'm sick with a cold and sneezing and coughing my head off right now.

Yes, all you great guys at Mr. Swiss (yahoos), Please join the Bellbridgade.

Cumming Resident
Mar 24, 2008 8:03pm [ 63 ]

DR: "Don't you worry about my re-election chances."

You won't have any re-election chances to worry about if you continue your childish antics.

David Milum
Mar 25, 2008 8:59pm [ 64 ]

Quote by Commissioner David Richard; ”Fact: Mr. Milum is what we call an 0-fer. An 0-fer is someone who is 0-fer-everything he alleges. He's lost every court case every brought against him, lost every complaint he has ever brought against a public official, and may well be the only person to file a complaint against someone and come away with a judgment against him when the court case was done.”

Our know it all county commissioner hasn’t bother to check his so-called facts as he has accused others of doing, especially me. Let me show you Citizens how wrong delirious Dave Richard can be and is.

  1. I was awarded one of Georgia’s longest Attorney General Opinions in this State’s history. This one was against Governor Sonny Perdue’s misuse of the Taxpayer owned helicopter. Here is the link to that decision. http://www.state.ga.us/ag/read.cgi?searchval=state%20patrol&openval=04-3

  2. In my Ethics Complaint against Commissioner Brian Tam for misusing a Taxpayer owned pickup truck that particular commissioner agreed to give up his county owned truck as did Commissioner Ledbetter for other reasons other than any misuse.

  3. Commissioner Richard loves to throw into my face how I have lost three lawsuits. Let me show you folks something. Here we have an imported crooked judge from Paulding County. As per a FBI agent one of the most corrupted counties very similar to Forsyth County. Judge Fudger reins terror and conspiracy over all three of my lawsuits. There is more you will be seeing soon as in the conspiring connections of thirteen members of the Forsyth County Judicial Mafioso.

Affidavit:

Affidavit of [EDITED]
11.19.07 Personally appeared before me, [EDITED], who, after being duly sworn, stated and deposed under oath as follows: 1. I am over eighteen years of age. I am currently suffering from no legal, mental, or emotional disability, and I make this affidavit voluntarily based on my own personal knowledge. 2. This is for use for the defense of James David Milum, a Forsyth County Citizen, who has been harmed by the unethical judicial actions of Paulding County Superior Court Judge Arthur W. Fudger, in Banks v. Milum, Milum v. Kreager, and Gooden v. Milum, all cases presided over by Judge Arthur W. Fudger. 3. Superior Court Judge Arthur W. Fudger came into the Cumming, Ga. location of Longhorn’s Steakhouse on October 16, 2007 in the late afternoon hours. I was the food server for him during his entire visit. After Mr. Fudger paid his check with a credit card I saw that his name was familiar so I started a conversation with him. I asked him if he had a good day at work and he looked tired. He told me he was a visiting judge and had been here in Forsyth County three times on the same man. I asked him if he had to travel home and he told me that he lived in Paulding County and it was too far to travel home that night. He said that Forsyth County put him up for his hotel stay.

I went on to tell him I was from Roswell and it had seemed like everyone has migrated this way. I asked him how he got all the way up here for these trials. He said that he went to Georgia Tech with Judge Richard Neville and said that I’m sure you don’t remember him. He also said that he was extremely good friends with Judge Jeff Bagley and Judge Stan Gault and he graduated from Tech in 1958, way before my time.

I went on to speak about Forsyth County School Superintendent Ms. Paula Gault retiring from the school this year and he said that maybe she could have some time to herself. Then we started talking about his grandkids and he stated that he went to his grandchildren’s soccer games. We continued to talk about children and grandchildren playing in sports and how it does not last long so we need to enjoy it now.

I asked Judge Fudger how much longer he thought he might have on this trial and he said that he would finish up the next day. Further affiant sayeth not.


[EDITED]Gainesville, Ga. 30506 Sworn this _27day of November, 2007, Notary Public Signature ______ My Commission Expires: (Seal): [Copy] of original notarized affidavit attached to this Motion

David Milum
Mar 25, 2008 9:30pm [ 65 ]

State copter flew Perdue son to football game, group says

By RHONDA COOK The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

A Forsyth County resident asked Thursday that the attorney general investigate a September flight Gov. Sonny Perdue and his son took on a State Patrol helicopter. A two-page letter from David Milum of the Forsyth County Citizen's Oversight Committee accuses Perdue and the State Patrol of trying to hide the governor's "misuses of state-owned aircraft and vehicles."

The state helicopter flew to the Cumming Patrol post, more than 40 miles north of the Governor's Mansion, to drop off the Rev. Jim Perdue so he could make a Friday night high school football game, according to the complaint and as first reported Wednesday night by WSB-TV. Jim Perdue and his wife, a teacher at North Forsyth High School, were to sell tickets for a fund-raiser sponsored by a student group.

"It appears. . . we are paying for a very high-priced taxi service for a family member of the governor," Milum wrote in the complaint to Attorney General Thurbert Baker.

A spokesman for Baker, Russ Willard, said the complaint had not been reviewed. The office has been looking into the governor's use of state aircraft since May, when a similar complaint was filed.

At issue is the lack of documentation that the helicopter landed in Cumming before continuing the Governor's Mansion to drop off Perdue. Critics said the Cumming stop was not noted because it was an attempt to keep away from the public any record of the trip. The State Patrol said such landings are not usually recorded if the engine is not shut down, which it was not in that case.

"In every way, all procedures were followed to the letter," Perdue spokesman Dan McLagan said. "I smell a political hatch~t job."

But Bobby Kahn, interim chairman of the state Democratic Party and one¬time top aide to Gov. Roy Barnes, said he sees a problem. "I think regs are pretty clear and the law is clear," said Kahn, a lawyer. "Leaving it off the logs may very well be a felony." On Sept. 12, the governor, his son, a photographer for the governor's office and a state trooper flew to Fort Stewart near Savannah for a presidential visit. On the way home, they stopped in Monroe County to speak to a "faith¬based civic" group and to -shoot skeet. The four eventually flew to Cumming

to drop off Jim Perdue and the photographer before returning the governor and the trooper to the mansion in Buckhead.

A former state driver's license examiner who lost her job at the end of a probationary period, Tammy Kidd, said Patrol Sgt. Allen Marlowe drove Jim Perdue to the football stadium about two miles away.

However, Marlowe said he did not drive Jim Perdue but did take the photographer to a nearby car repair shop. "We give people rides all the time," Marlowe said. "It didn't interfere with our regular duties. To me, it's just really blown out of proportion."

Marlowe said he told the radio operator not to note the request to land because the aircraft was going to be on the ground only a few minutes. "I didn't see any point in doing that," he said. "We weren't trying to hide anything. "

State officials have received other complaints about the governor's use of state aircraft. Last summer, the governor-appointed inspector general said there was nothing wrong with Perdue, a licensed pilot, taking control of the helicopter as long as a certified pilot was in the next seat.

The inspector general also ruled that Perdue could fly to political events but that a system for reimbursing the state for the cost is needed.

In the spring, just a few months before that report, the Perdue campaign reimbursed the state $2,940 for personal and political travel.

In November, the state Ethics Commission voted to clear the governor of any wrongdoing related to the two political trips in a government-owned helicoDter.

David Richard
Mar 26, 2008 11:17am [ 66 ]

Still an 0-fer.

The lengthy "opinion" by the state attorney general? Let's look at the last paragraph in that opinion, shall we?

"Although this opinion does not raise any new legal principles with respect to the use of state aircraft, it is the first comprehensive review of the applicable law related to such use."

No new legal principles. Is this what you call a win?

And Mr. Milum has a far higher opinion of his efforts in having commissioners get rid of their county trucks. Starngely, his name was never associated with any public efforts to change that policy, except for the ethics complaint he filed against Brian Tam, WHICH MR. MILUM LOST!

Finally, Mr. Milum uses the ethics complaint he filed against the governor regarding helicopter use, and his own attempt to show how he won something is the last quote of his defense:

"In November, the state Ethics Commission voted to CLEAR the governor of any wrongdoing related to the two political trips in a government-owned helicopter."

Once an 0-fer, always an 0-fer.

Former Richard Fan
Mar 26, 2008 12:54pm [ 67 ]

LOL....what an idiot.

You just don't know when to let it go; when to sit one out.

All this talk about "protecting your reputation". What a joke. Let me tell you about your "reputation". You don't need Milum to trash your reputation. You are doing a good enough job of that yourself.

You now have the reputation of being a big crybaby who devotes God only knows how much time to fighting with constituents on the internet.

Here's a little tip for you....if someone tells you they are crazy, believe them. Don't try to argue with them, don't try to reason with them, and Don't try to "one-up" them. Just believe what they tell you and move on.

Umm......hello! Who do you think looks worse here? You, or Milum?

I would tell you to stop, please, before it's too late, but I think you have gone past the point of no return with your nonsense.

When all is said and done, and you are looking back trying to figure out why you lost, come back to these message boards and read them. The answers will be right here for you.

Another Former Richard Fan
Mar 26, 2008 2:06pm [ 68 ]

Would you believe this guy? He is still at it.

Former Richard Fan #3
Mar 26, 2008 3:36pm [ 69 ]

Unbelieveable!!

terry sweeney
Mar 26, 2008 5:07pm [ 70 ]

It appears that dave richard is back and will never learn. He thinks Sonny Purdue wasn't in the copter and it never it happened.

By By big guy. Ts.

Terry B
Mar 26, 2008 5:32pm [ 71 ]

I am just curious how much time is being spent arguing with constituents on the internet, rather than Governing Forsyth County.

Pitiful

David Richard
Mar 26, 2008 7:23pm [ 72 ]

Ms. Baradine,

Since I can accomplish 5 things before you can even think of doing one, plenty is getting done.

Maybe you should pay less attention to what is being said on websites, and more attention to what is actually being accomplished by this commission, and specifically this commissioner. But you'd have to read my website to find out what is actually going on, which you say you don't do.

debra
Mar 26, 2008 8:41pm [ 73 ]

Please, don't anybody try to covince David Richard to stop his tirades on this and other websites Each insult he hurls makes him look worse and just adds to his opponent's vote total.

Post on, Mr. Richard, post on!

David Milum
Mar 26, 2008 9:08pm [ 74 ]

OK Commissioner David Richard, since you are so addicted to the Internet here you go, as I too have a spare moment tonight. While I have got your undivided attention how is Ken coming on scraping up all of your emails Dave? I hope you haven’t called any Citizens any bad names in those things Dave. We already know how you speak about your comrades on the Commissioner.

I am so disappointed that you need to see new legal principles from all of the Attorney General’s Legal Opinions. Why don’t you call up Mr. A.G. Thurbert Baker and tell him that he is an idiot, or a sleaze-master, or a moron, or maybe a drooling imbecile for wasting all those 5,469 words in his 2004 Official Attorney General Opinion. I’m so sure he will jump at the chance to completely retract his wasteful Legal Opinions at your request. Maybe he will also jump for joy at the opportunity to join you working this weekend at the little mall on your twelve dollar an hour job just to keep the company of such a brilliant scholar such as yourself. Wouldn’t that be nice Dave?

But then when those nasty old drooling imbecile Yahoos would come in the store wanting a pair of cheap second grade pants and you’d have to be all rude and leave the Attorney General standing there all alone while you made that big sale...right Dave? Shucks, maybe with your charm and diplomacy skills you could persuade the Attorney General to help you sweep the floor at quitin’ time too. That would be much better than doing it all alone right Dave?

Here is what Mr. Baker’s opinion did say for the rest of us who are not so concerned that it ‘didn’t’ raise any new legal principles little fellow.

A.G. Baker; “Although this opinion does not raise any new legal principles with respect to the use of state aircraft, it is the [first comprehensive review of the applicable law related to such use]. For that reason the opinion should be applied prospectively, at least insofar as it governs the personal or political use of state aircraft by the Governor, the Lieutenant Governor, and the Speaker of the House under the security provisions set forth in O.C.G.A. § 35 2 73.”

OK, moving right along onto the county pickup truck issue that you seem to be so broken up over. First, let’s tell these edge-of-the-chair readers that it was ‘you’ Mr. Commissioner David Richard that called me all panicky one afternoon wanting to know if I had a camera in my car while you stated to me that you “could nail Commissioner Brian Tam and Representative Jack Murphy in one fell swoop”. Those were your words to me that afternoon. You said that Tam’s county owned truck was sitting at his restaurant loaded with his catering stuff that Tam had used the day before at the Jack Murphy cookout sponsored by Tommy Bagwell’s at his lake house. You do remember that now, right Commissioner Richard? You told me that I needed to hurry as fast as I could before Tam moved the truck. I agreed to go take those photos for ‘you’ Sir. You are also the one who called me again to say that Tam was going to move quickly to defuse the situation and confess to the loaded truck in the commissioner’s meeting that week. Remember that now Dave?

And do you also remember Dave that Tam and Ledbetter both turned their trucks in right after I filed and completed the Ethic Complaint Hearing on Tam? We were speaking almost daily during that episode, isn’t that right too Commissioner Richard?

You dragged me into your little plot to destroy Commissioner Tam and Representative Jack Murphy them you turn on me too when I very politely ask you several questions. Yep, let’s all go back and read those questions at http://www.aboutforsyth.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3895&start=0

From my crow’s nest your plan for re-election ain’t looking so hot now Dave. Maybe if you call all the Yahoos and the Question Askers bad names we’ll get used to it a lot sooner and maybe even in time for the election.

I am so disappointed in your integrity Commissioner. You lie about your involvement in the innocent Hansard family attacks then you take it back. You do your best to spin it around and around to your liking. You’re making me dizzy Dave. Maybe that is the reason I am so self-professed loony, I’ve been listening to you to long.

In the other surplus land issue you said that the sale to Phillip Bettis was justified and Buddy Lang had no vested interest in the land while in another sentence you stated to me; on Saturday, October 27, 2007 10:57 AM, Commissioner Dave Richard said and I quote; “You call this preferential treatment. You're damned right it is.” Then in another email on Sunday, October 28, 2007 @ 2:50 AM; Commissioner Dave Richard said;”The property owner got preferential treatment because of the situation of the moment, not because of who he is.”

Here you go Dave, another short piece of grammar rope, but you do know what to do with it don’t you?

Terry Baradine
Mar 26, 2008 9:13pm [ 75 ]

I don't need to read your website EVER, so please do not tell me that because what you say on your website is Gospel according to Mr. Richard, it is not. Its a bunch of bloviating, smut talk and hurling of insults and just your nonsensical opinion. That's it in a nutshell. But hey, keep blogging away, sir... for all to see!

Too bad SB 461 doesn't apply to county commissioners.

Hey Mr. Richard do you have a code of ethics to follow? Just curious..

David Milum
Mar 26, 2008 9:24pm [ 76 ]

Forgive me folks I forgot something. Commissioner Richard are your two alias "Living the Nightmare" and "Darwin"?

On The Sidelines
Mar 26, 2008 10:53pm [ 77 ]

My 3 and 5 year olds love to play the endless game of, "Did so", "Did not". Never thought I'd see it from a County Commissioner, regardless of his accomplishments, knowledge and experience. I believe it calls into question his judgment. Elected officials need to rise above the noise & take the high road. No need to respond to every little post that tweaks one's nose.

NFRaider
Mar 27, 2008 6:06pm [ 78 ]

Where's David? Seems like he has been tempered at last...and it all it took was Mr. Bell to start getting on him about his mouth. Wish Mr Bell was around a long time ago. This is the only person that has made him pipe down...way to go!

David Richard
Mar 27, 2008 7:06pm [ 79 ]

Sorry, but some of have real work to do, like the things you elected me to do.

So far, all I've seen is a lot of hot air about my style of governing, but nothing, repeat, nothing of any substance.

And that includes everything thus far from Mr. Bell. A candidate for over a week, and the best he can do is complain about a non-existent problem with commissioner pay, and say he was for SPLOST before he was against SPLOST. Very John Kerry-esque.

If you folks think that a fantasy world exists where my accomplishments in office get done without much of my personal style, then you are, indeed, living in a fantasy world.

And if you think the county commission is filled with bickering and infighting, then you have been reading the Forsyth County News too much, and been buying